Monday, November 30, 2015

Poetry Cycles/Deportee

AGENDA:

Morning reflection:
Deportee and "Everyday We Become More Illegal"

How can someone get “more illegal”? What are the feelings of the people in the poem? How does the poem relate to the song? What relevance does the poem have today? Is it the same or different from the relevance of Guthrie’s song?

Brockport welcomes migrant community
http://en.elmensajerorochester.com/community-faith/features/migrant-workers-welcomed-in-brockport/

Work on poetry cycles--completed poetry cycles are due on Friday

Billy Collins poems

Arts & Lectures event this Thursday 7:30  Downtown Presbyterian Church--Roxane Gay

http://www.roxanegay.com/


14 comments:

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  2. I think while there are a lot of people in our country who are xenophobic and because of it hope to stop immigrants from entering/staying in the country. I think that there is a much larger population of people who are simply not very educated about the topic and because of that have viewpoints aligned with it. The commonly held belief that immigrants are taking our jobs has been shown to be true yet people still believe that it is, and other things like it. If we can simply educate the populace on the facts about immigration I think that a large part of the issue can be solved, but at least some of the viewpoints of these people should be respected. As I think that the country really could benefit from some more thorough documentation processes and procedures, not so we can keep people out but so we can accurately keep track of those who are in our society and make sure that they are held to the same rules that everyone else in the country is.

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  3. I really like Juan Herrera, and I thought his poem captured well the environment our country has created itself for those who were not originally from America. The song "Deportee" also did a good job of this, emphasizing how the plane taking these people back to their birth country wouldn't treat them like people, they wouldn't use their name or think about their stories, they would just call them "deportee" and treat them like a number, they would treat them like nothing. Both the poem and the song highlighted how awful xenophobia is. America should work to help undocumented immigrants, and keep them from hiding. Instead, they treat them like they are prisoners and are unwanted, which is wrong.

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  4. I think the video was a good insight as to how the immigrants feel about the way they get treated. They are seen as just deeporte’s and not actual people that should have equal opportunities. I think it’s sad that there treated as outcasts and the line “everyday we become more illegal” is depressing in itself.

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  5. Based on what I just saw about immigration and deportation I think it is really wrong. Even though there is terrorist in this world that doesn't mean that everyone is. There are always a few a bad apples in a bunch that makes the rest have to suffer. Deporting innocent people back to where they was born is wrong just because they aren't American doesn't mean they aren't human. I believe it goes beyond fear I think its just pure out racism because you're not liking this person you don't want this person because they aren't American, a person can't be. Nobody can become more illegal people aren't a drug or something that is against the law their is no law stating that you have to be American to be consider a person. The feeling of the people in the poem relates to the song because its trying to get across a very important message that everyone needs to hear and know something about how these people are being treated just because of their ethnicity.

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  7. In the recent years since the incident on 9/11, American citizens have been largely over-cautious towards it's immigrant population. With the Hispanic and Islamic populations in particular, Americans have become very xenophobic towards outsiders. This morning's "Morning Reflection" shows this in both Guthrie's song from the '60s and the poem written recently by the poet laureate. In both pieces, regardless of the time when written, the author felt that these immigrants needed to be protected. The ignorance that comes into conversation while discussing 9/11 just shows that this is a topic that most people don't know about, but feel the need to give their opinion anyway.

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  8. The morning reflection illustrates America's fear of immigration and letting other races into our country. This is a prevalent issue especially today due to the issues with ISIS and what not. I think America is very fearful of terrorism so as a result, they are taking every possible precaution to prevent it. But in reality, they are only going against the very thing they stand for, which is opportunity. The poem and song both address this issue with heartfelt emotion. I don't think someone can get more legal, just more assimilated into the American culture. But ultimately, a foreigner will always be seen as just that,a foreigner, no matter how legal they are.

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  9. I feel this mornings poetry was very relevant. In this day an age people have different beliefs and perspectives on one another,particularly in ethnicity. Its mind blowing to hear that people think others shouldn't have the same advantages that others have even if they crossed the border to have a better life. I feel as if everyone should have the advantages and equality without being hated or questioned because of race.

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  10. After watching the video I felt like it was a very good insight for people how don't understand how immigrants feel about how people treat them. Some people don't see them as humans they just see them as illegal and deeportes and because of that, they don't get a lot of options as a white person can or just anyone else in general. I honestly think America should make it their business to help immigrants instead of treating them like they're not humans.

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  11. I think that the video I watched today in class was a good video. It had a great insight in our world today and how people are getting treated. I think that is horrible that people should have equal opportunities to do things that other people cant do. It also sucks that us everyday people become outcasts and become illegal.

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  12. I feel that the morning reflection has relevance to US current situation with Americans having these xenophobic feelings towards Latinos and even anyone who isn't this " All American" stereotype. It shows from deportee in 1960s to " Everyday We Become More Illegal", this shows how the deportation situation has not changed at all from 50 years ago. It's ironic how the US the country that was formed by immigrants and yet you treat people who came here for a better life or even for work to support their family, are just sent off.

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  13. I think this world was made for everyone to live on and to share. I don't believe that its fair how white America is treating every other race or ethnicity. No one should be treated better or less. Everyone deserves a fair chance at life. Also they shouldent be consider as illegal still because they help the Americans and pay taxes just like everyone else. In the poem the people seem sad and the poem and song relate because they are just grouping hispanic people they are not trying to consider them as individuals.

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  14. This morning reflection was very good because it basically gave us away on how immigrants feel and some of the things that they are going through now . They don't have a lot of say to what they want so that they have a better life and now is making there life more difficult because of the way some people may look at it. The song was saying some of there issues that they faced and till this days are still facing

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